Much talk on this with colleagues today Whether this cponamy is real or fake (I lean towards fake, but I don't see the point of it), all the kneejerk FUD and way-cool marketing talk here is making more of this than it deserves. scnt has become mainstream since 1996 and, statements to the contrary .to produce cows along with pigs and the everpopular sheep. (Even dogs!) High-producing livestock sell for many tens of thousands $ on market yes, businesses use science for profit (gasp) .and yes, clones are doubtless in some foods today . Once you've done your due PubMed diligence to get the facts of it, if what you're left with is the willies .fine but don't spread it here. that's a gut reaction .What I want to know is: what really is the issue? Is there anything special about cloning that demands real consideration? As I see it, it breaks down to issues that are already under scrutiny .not to lessen them, but they're known . 1. reproductive tech generally . lots of issues, but keep in mind we're talking animals not infertile people. Artificial insemination is already the rule in agriculture, it's nothing new, and cloning doesn't change the process 2. animal cruelty. again, no issues that AI .and of corse the use of animals for food don't already bring. 3. longevity. that's the crux of it I think .SCNT just extends the life of a specific gene set, ethically no different from extending the life of an individual 4. food contamination. The products are genetically identical, so why would there be any new issue? And besides this case is dairy ..that comes from cows old enough and healthy enough to have had calves, people, wouldn't diseases have a chance to exhibit? we're not talking about embryos or even veal here . 5. sanctity of life . no different from AI issue here, except maybe prolonging the gene set is actually helping value the life of the individual Am I missing something or is there some special issue that makes cloning different from standard practices already in livestock agriculture? If not, then at least be honest about following your gut reaction and not an analysis of the science and ethics of it at all.- Mel

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